Donald Trump’s Relationship With Russia

Donald Trump’s relationship with Russia has dominated the headlines this week. From top national security advisor, General Flynn, resignation on Monday due to his communication with Russian officials, to more and more documents being leaked to senior Trump campaign advisers with Russia during the 2016 election campaign, accusations are being flown left and right. What do you think? Is this all “fake news” conspiracy theories like Donald Trump has said in his tweets, or is there something more to this? Share your thoughts.

14 Comments

  1. impeachtrumpnow
    February 22, 2017 @ 10:48 am

    Trump will get impeached over his criminal ties to Russia.

  2. On The Edge
    February 20, 2017 @ 6:51 am

    why is it that the Democrats, and also a number of other establishment politicians (including some Republicans), are hyping this threat? Is it because the facts support it? Or is it the need for us to have an enemy? I think the press will hype anything right now that will make the public react.

    • Dirk Droll
      February 20, 2017 @ 3:56 pm

      Exactly. They give us false enemies to bark at, all the better to control us and keep us from shaking off our masters’ yoke.

      • Dirk Droll
        February 20, 2017 @ 4:05 pm

        These false flag political stagings are so damaging to us that I was moved to write a whole post about this: http://www.politicalstorm.com/trump-russia-establishments-left-trap/
         
        So, no, I don’t think any Russian involvement — whether real or not — is a big deal compared to the massive domestic election theft practices, our oligarchy’s ownership of our politicians, and the squeezing of working people by the top 1-10%. As long as we have money ruling our politics we will be sold down the river and it matters much less where the thugs who take away our sacred right to self-governance live or come from. Why do I (and so few others, apparently) even have to explain that to anybody (so many anybodies apparently)?

  3. Dirk Droll
    February 15, 2017 @ 4:59 pm

    It’s not a hot topic for me. Look at how America has changed since the seventies, and it is clear that our oligarchs aren’t our friends, whether they live in Russia, Saudi Arabia, or the Hamptons, or are global jet setters as so many of them are. The particular graft gang known as the military-industrial complex benefits directly from the hyped-up conflict with Russia, and it serves as a convenient distraction from the shenanigans of our political con artists and vile plutocrats doing their dark deeds right here under our noses, but those are not our root problems. When we dig deeper down to the roots, we find massive electioneering, our politicians getting bought up by armies of lobbyists working for the oligarchs, and the rest of us having no say. Hence our jobs go overseas or down extinction lane through technological displacement while the oligarchs keep all the production savings as profits and roll us into the poverty ditch. Priorities, people! Priorities! We need to democratize our country, both the political and the economic sphere, or this squeeze will never end.

    • MarxEngels2020
      February 17, 2017 @ 12:24 pm

      So a president potentially colluding with one of our biggest adversaries (who would love to see our country fall apart) in order to get elected doesn’t matter to you?

      • Dirk Droll
        February 19, 2017 @ 6:38 am

        Biggest adversary, who are you kidding? Where do you get the idea that Russia is your or my “biggest adversary”? How does any Russian benefit from cutting our social security, denying us health care, or outsourcing our jobs to China? Do you think, Russians watch news of our rising poverty and celebrate and give each other rewards for it? Come on, now. Did you actually read past my first sentence?

        • MarxEngels2020
          February 27, 2017 @ 1:03 pm

          Putin benefits from it. Putin watches the news of our rising poverty and celebrates it. Are you actually so naive? Don’t you understand that everything Putin does is with the aim of undermining the effectiveness of western democracies? Putin’s rhetoric for the past decade ha never been “Russia Is Great”, it’s been “Yeah we might have some issues, but look at all of the issues in these so-called western democracies.” John Oliver highlights some great examples here of Putin turning Russian criticism right around on the US: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0utzB6oDan0 . Russia is without a doubt our biggest adversary globally. Iran and North Korea may be more hostile, but both pale in comparison to Russia’s military and nuclear threat. China could be our biggest adversary but they’ve been far more friendly and cooperative than Russia.
          Russia just tried to influence our election in order to get the candidate who favors them in office. And it looks like they succeeded. A foreign actor (who benefits from seeing Americans suffer) influencing our election in order to get the guy elected who most benefits him doesn’t bother you? Have you learned nothing from history?
          American oligarchs are certainly not our friends, but Russia and Vladimir Putin want far worse things for the American people, anyone can see this.

          • Dirk Droll
            February 27, 2017 @ 2:16 pm

            OK, so, Putin justifies his power over Russians by pointing at OUR inequalities. How exactly does he harm us through this? (especially when our own media consistently shortchange us on this kind of news)
             
            Sure, Russia, has a more dangerous military (although its equipment is aging terribly) than other nations like China or North Korea. However, it is OUR undemocratic government that is engaging in a military build-up around Russia’s borders, not the other way round. And this drives up the profits of our arms manufacturers who have long been in bed with the Clintons. That’s why Shillary kept and keeps harping about Russia. She and her husband love money and care nothing about you and me. While she was Secretary of State she enabled the big uranium deal (American uranium for Russia) in exchange for another fat bribe. So, before you try to pull one of those Hillary-is-better-than-Trump-because-of-Russia kinds of tricks on us, do some research and be a bit more careful with throwing the word “naive” around. Again, it’s OUR country that has its military stationed in 70% of the world’s nations, for which we pay with half of our tax dollars instead of financing proper healthcare and education and repairing our rotting infrastructure. Again, all this benefits the military-industrial complex and corrupt politicians like the Clintons (and a certain former administration’s infamous “Dick”, in case anybody thinks I am shilling for Republicans here). Meanwhile, we regular folks pay for this war profiteering not only with half our tax dollars but also by becoming targets of foreign terrorism and with long lines at airport security (which nevertheless fails to find 95% of concealed weapons – it’s just another government PR stunt aiming to keep us in line).
             
            Again, if I am getting mugged, I don’t care the slightest if the mugger is Russian, American, or something else. What matters is that I, and all my fellow citizens, except for a privileged few percent, are getting mugged every day by those in seats of political and economic power in our own country. What matters is that this constant mugging and rigging exhausts all our energy and time dodging each other’s elbows, keeping us from working together on pressing concerns that are NOT self-inflicted. Also, governments have always been working on influencing one another, sometimes even toppling one another. It’s nothing new, and OUR government plays with the best of them there. I find the evidence for really meaningful election tampering by Russia very weak while evidence for the massive election tampering by our OWN establishment is overwhelming. I wonder who benefits by distracting from the latter by tales of the former… Hmm?
             
            But I’ll play ball, even with one who throws insults around (as long as it keeps within limits)… So, you say that “Russia and Vladimir Putin want far worse things for the American people than American oligarchs”. All right. If you really think so, let us hear some details.

    • David Frisk
      February 24, 2017 @ 7:59 pm

      This story is indeed a distraction from more important ones, as you say.

    • Thunder
      February 25, 2017 @ 2:54 pm

      I agree with you 100%, however, the root cause also is the electoral college. This
      antiqued system must be replaced. In a true democracy there must be a “recall”
      ability within any true democracy. This is the only true way to defeat 1-10%.

      • Dirk Droll
        February 25, 2017 @ 4:56 pm

        Yes. Our antiquated electoral system is highly vulnerable to manipulation such as gerrymandering. It also creates the all-powerful party duopoly from its winner-take-all approach. All of this is highly toxic to democratic self-governance and inclusive representation.

  4. American1983
    February 15, 2017 @ 3:45 pm

    This is the beginning of the end for Trump. His relationships with Russia during the campaign will kill him. I am sure about that.

  5. Anonymous
    February 15, 2017 @ 11:45 am

    We know the Russia Gov’t interfered with the Election to get Donald in the oval office. We now have allegations that the Trump campaign was in constant contact with Russia Intelligence officials. Flynn is Putin’s best American friend (behind Tillerson).

    We’re watching the Trump Administration completely implode in its first month, which really isn’t surprising. Trump’s resignation is just around the corner. What a legacy.

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